"Come Once and You're A Regular Patron" - The Beatles in Seaforth

Lathom Hall

Lathom Ave,

Seaforth,

Liverpool,

L21 1EB

This long but narrow hall built in 1884 was for many years Seaforth's only social centre. In June 1912 it was announced that in order to screen motion pictures the hall had been converted to the "most elaborate picture palace in the district, with electric lighting" (In fact until the following year it was the only picture palace in Seaforth). Seating over 200 the Lathom Hall Picture Palace opened on Saturday 8 June 1912 showing "A Red Cross Martyr", "Burglar Proof Villa" and "Her Saints Day".

The Motto of the management was "Come Once and You're A Regular Patron" which the management of the Lathom still adhere to today.

Despite the hall drawing great attendances for the twice weekly change of films it had a short lifespan as a picture house and closed in 1916.

During the Second World War it was used as a NAAFI (Navy, Army and Air Force Institute) storeroom and later as a school kitchen. It was converted into a dance hall in the 1950s, closing for a period following disorder in February 1958.

Two years later, in May 1960, the Silver Beetles (or the Silver Beats as they called themselves on this one occasion) played Lathom Hall for the first time. This was to be the venue for the Beatles' first ever properly advertised engagement, a booking by the Crosby based promoter Brian Kelly who ran his Beekay* dances at Lathom and similarly tough venues in north Liverpool such as Aintree Institute, Litherland Town Hall and Alexandra Hall in Crosby**. Coming from south  Liverpool these areas of the city, all north of the Pier Head, and heavily populated by the descendants of the Irish Catholics who had fled the Great Famine, were completely unfamiliar territory to the group in 1960 and probably required several changes of bus to get there.

The Silver Beetles (Silver Beats) in May 1960: L-R: Stuart Sutcliffe, John Lennon, Tommy Moore, Paul McCartney and George Harrison (photo: Cheniston Roland).

But first they had to audition for Kelly and did so on the evening of 14 May 1960, playing a few songs during the interval. Kelly must have been impressed as he booked them to appear at the following Saturday's dance, actually headlining over King Size Taylor.

On 20 May a local paper, the Bootle Times went so far as to report the Silver Beats appearance as "sensational" and no doubt helped to build up excitement for their forthcoming engagement the following evening.

Except when Saturday 21 May 1960 arrived the Silver Beats weren't there. They'd gone off on a tour of Scotland backing the singer Johnny Gentle. Typically they hadn't bothered to tell Brian Kelly they wouldn't be able to make it. He was not pleased and they didn't play for him in Seaforth or anywhere else for another eight months, Bob Wooler having to smooth the way for their return.

In the interim the Beatles had travelled to Hamburg, the long hours on stage transforming them from a "bum group" who couldn't get a gig in their own city, to the most in demand band in Liverpool. Having to put aside what he may have thought about them as people Brian Kelly knew he simply couldn't afford not to book them.

In all The Beatles appeared at Lathom Hall on a further nine occasions, each booking taking place in the first two months of 1961 immediately after their return from Hamburg:

January 1961

20th, 21st, 28th, 30th (they received £8 10s for their night's work - about £120)

When the Beatles returned to Liverpool in December 1960 Stuart Sutcliffe had stayed on in Hamburg. He finally came home around the 15 January 1961 and took his place in the group a day or so later, ready to play the upcoming gigs at Lathom Hall.

The Beatles had all witnessed violence at venues in both Liverpool and Hamburg but the unfamiliar north end of the city around Seaforth was particularly rough. A lot of the Teds in the audience were likely to have worked on the local docks during the day and seemed to have a strong territorial mentality so the Beatles were often looking over their shoulders after a gig in case one of them had said the wrong thing or looked at the wrong girl, or John had done one of his great big winks, which delivered with just the right amount of sarcasm and provocation would really wind the Teds up.

They were right to be wary.  Neil Aspinall, a friend of Pete Best who was just starting to drive The Beatles to gigs, and would eventually become their road manager would recall an incident at Lathom Hall in January 1961 where "two troublemakers followed Stu Sutcliffe into the dressing-room muttering things like ‘Get your hair cut, girl!’ John and Pete saw this and went after them. A fight broke out and John broke his little finger…It set crooked and never straightened.”

Pete Best: When we’d done our session and came off, we changed, which didn’t take an awful lot of time because we basically played in what we stood up in. Stu went out, followed by John and myself.

These lads started a fight with Stu after picking on him. We got to know about it because some people ran back to the side of the stage where we had come from and said, ‘Stu’s getting the living daylights knocked out of him.

So John and I dashed out. We threw a couple of punches, sorted things out and pulled Stu back in again. The fact that John and I had pitched in and got involved made (the teds) feel a certain amount of respect for us….as a result of the fight John broke a little finger. He still managed to play for a couple of gigs after that. He hadn’t complained …the next time we saw him he had a splint on it.

Neil had gone home to his studies while the Beatles were playing but when he returned to pick them up they told him "there's been a fight in the bogs". John had broken a finger, Pete had a black eye, Paul had been dancing around and Stuart had been kicked in the head. Apparently Stu had been trapped in the toilets by some Teds because their girls had been screaming, and John had probably done one of his big f*****g winks. (Tune In)

Although Stuart is partly obscured by John's guitar the photo is significant because it is believed to be the earliest photo of the Beatles on stage at the Cavern and the only one taken while Stu was still in the band. John still has a splint on his right hand - a souvenir from the fight at the Lathom.

February 1961

4th, 6th, 10th, 11th and 25th February 1961.

February 25th was their final appearance at Lathom Hall. The Beatles had played Aintree Institute earlier that evening. It was also George Harrison's 18th birthday

Stu Sutcliffe and Pete Best at the Casbah, West Derby on 12 February 1961 (photo: Mike McCartney)

Three months after the Beatles final appearance three men were prosecuted after beating up a policeman outside Lathom Hall following one of Beekay's jive sessions. Acting upon the wishes of the local residents the council brought the curtain down on Lathom Hall as a live venue. Brian Kelly was quoted in the Liverpol Echo saying "these dances have been a pain in the neck for me".

In May 1962 Stuart would die in Hamburg of a brain aneurysm. Whilst the definitive cause is unknown it has been linked to the traumatic head injury he received during the fight outside Lathom Hall in January 1961.

Pete Best: When people talk of Stu being beaten up, I think it stems from this incident. But I don’t remember Stu getting to the stage where he had his head kicked in, as some legends say, alleging that this caused his fatal brain haemorrhage.

After the Merseybeat boom the venue became a Royal Navy Club and was then left derelict for some time. In 1989 Brian Corrigan purchased the building and together with his son Dean completely refurbished the premises.

Today the Lathom still books some of the legendary Merseybeat groups and over the last few years has featured appearances by The Searchers, The Merseybeats, Kingsize Taylor, The Undertakers and other original bands from that era. It's also worth mentioning that the club is one of the few venues left in Liverpool where you can still stand on the original stage where the Beatles played.

I've visited Lathom Hall a few times over the years but until now I've never been in. I have to admit that the large Blackpool-Illuminations style Hippy outside put me off. It looks a bit, well, tacky I suppose.

Tune In to see whether I changed my mind when I finally ventured into the venue in the next post.

Notes:

* Beekay as in B.K. - Brian Kelly's initials.

** All venues they would play in 1961

Source:

Tune In by Mark Lewisohn

Picture Palaces of Liverpool by Harold Ackroyd.

Oglet Shorts Part 2!

Oglet Shore
Speke
Liverpool

There have been further comments on yesterday's post concerning the above photograph.

Some of you older people may remember Peter Hodgson's observation that these two little boys in their braced shorts (left) look a little bit like a young Paul and Michael McCartney.

Peter thought it odd that two young boys would be down there unaccompanied but did note the taller girl behind them with the dark hair. Was she the sister of one of the boys? A neighbour maybe?

How about a cousin?

Here's Paul in 1957 on the beach at Filey. The glamorous lady on the left is his cousin Bett, daughter of Annie McCartney, Jim's sister. The little boy is her son Ted Robbins who would later find fame as the comedian and actor, Ted Robbins. Could she be the dark haired lady in the Oglet photo?

In fact there are some adults sitting on rocks centre and extreme right, so maybe the kids are part of a larger family gathering. Could this be a McCartney family day out?

And then, just to add further conjecture to a post already based entirely upon speculation and guesswork another friend of mine, Jackie Spencer, Beatles tour guide numero uno, pipes up and asks could this little chap in the centre of the photograph be the other Speke Beatle, George Harrison and the boy standing with his legs crossed by the rock his older brother Peter?

Funnily enough the thought had crossed my mind too but I put it down to me feeling tired (it's been very warm out the last couple of days).  In all honesty I don't know what to think anymore, I've studied this photograph so much over the last day I'm sure I even spotted this guy at one point.

Finally, here's a photograph of Paul and George (and one other) reportedly taken at Oglet. I assumed it was from one of Paul and George's hitch-hiking holidays but others say differently. There looks to be a sand dune behind them so it's safe to say they're at a beach (unless their unidentified friend owned a bloody big sandpit). But where?

Similarly this one, of George carrying flippers. This photo appears in Remember, one of Mike McCartney's books where he credits Paul as the photographer. Mike suggests George is on his way to either the swimming baths (there were none in Speke so he's probably going to Garston or Woolton) or the sea (or the Mersey). Once again, this could be from their hitch-hiking holiday but the fact that Mike thought he had taken the photo until Paul told him otherwise suggests he recognises where George is, and let's not forget that Mike didn't accompany them on either of their holidays.

For the sake of completeness I've included both photos here.

I'll leave it up to you, the viewer to decide.

    

George, circa 1957-8, photographed by Paul McCartney

Thanks to Peter Hodgson and Jackie Spencer.

Photograph of Paul on Filey Beach, George and Paul, and George with flippers -property of Paul and Mike McCartney.

The Oglet Shore photo originated in Ken Pye's book "Discover Liverpool" which I bought recently in a Charity Shop, signed by the author and including a DVD.

What a great find - it's one of the best books on my city I've had the pleasure to read.

Here's a link to Ken's site

Oglet Shorts?

Oglet Shore
Oglet, Speke
Liverpool L24

One of the main aims of this blog has always been to get other people enthused about the subject and get them thinking about some of the places and photographs I've featured in the hope that they will come forward and share their own stories. There must be hundreds of people who knew the Beatles before they were famous or saw them later in one of the venues covered by this blog who have never had the opportunity to have their memories recorded for posterity.

I'm pleased my previous post about Paul and Michael McCartney in Stanley Park prompted such a positive response.

What I didn't expect by solving one little mystery was the possible creation of another.

With the Stanley Park photos of Paul and Michael still fresh in his mind keen eyed Peter Hodgson was reading my earlier post about Oglet Shore when he noticed this photo. 

Look at the boys in the background on the left.

Here's a close up (below):

Peter messaged me:

"Notice the two smaller boys wearing braced up shorts, standing with a girl in white?  

Paul and Mike?"

The girl on Oglet shore is dressed in white and has ribbons in her hair.

Here's another photo of Paul wearing the shorts in the back garden of his house on Western Avenue, Speke. I wonder who the girl in white with the ribbon in her hair is? In Mike's book "Thank U Very Much" she's simply described as "Paul's earliest fan".  In his later book Remember, she's their little next door neighbour.

Peter Hodgson: "Paul" is facing the camera, Mike looking out onto the Mersey.  Note Mike's bushy hair in the photo (as it is in the second Stanley Park photo and several others from this period)

It's a pity neither parent is in the photo. I would have thought Jim or Mary would have been close by.

Studying the picture the kids in question have just arrived or are about to leave - they are all laden with stuff. There's a taller female behind them with black hair. She appears to be an adult, or at least she has an adult hairstyle.

Peter admits "Maybe I want it to be them..... maybe I've lost the plot!"

Liverpool kids have always been at the forefront of fashion so it just might be that in the Summer of 1947 woollen shorts with braces and white ribbons were all the rage.

Imagine if it was them. That would be an extraordinary co-incidence.

Thanks to Peter Hodgson.

The McCartney family photographs are the property of Paul and Michael McCartney.