Thursday, 21 February 2013

Meat The Quarry Men

Stanley Abattoir Athletic and Social Club,
Prescot Road,
Old Swan, Liverpool

There had been a market for livestock in the Old Swan area since 1830. Stanley Market was on a main corporation tram route, Prescot Road being the main road from Liverpool to the manufacturing districts of East Lancashire and Yorkshire. The site was acquired by Liverpool Corporation in 1901 and a new building for livestock and an abattoir costing £670,000 was opened by the Earl of Derby on 14 September 1931.

The largest meat market in Britain had a social club attached to the massive premises which catered for the staff of the huge slaughter house, their families and friends. At a time when they probably knew as much about vegetarianism as Transcendental Meditation the Quarry Men appeared here in a somewhat unusual engagement arranged by their mate / "manager" Nigel Walley. The Quarry Men were booked for a Saturday night dance on 16 November 1957, playing (as they regularly seemed to do during their formative years) on either side of the interval.

It is reported that their allegedly “cacophonous” performances were not well received and they were not re-booked. It seems they had spent some time calming their nerves in the nearby Cattle Market Public House which resulted in one or two band members being a little "worse for wear". (see also Finch Lane L.C.P.T).

At the time the area would have been quite unfamiliar to them being several miles and several buses away from their homes in South Liverpool. Within a few years however they were making regular appearances at St John’s Hall in Tuebrook, little over a mile away down Green Lane and hanging out at the home of Al Caldwell (Rory Storm) in nearby Broad Green.

A still from the film "Nowhere Boy" showing how the Quarry Men would have looked at the time of their appearance at Stanley Abattoir.

A busy scene at the Abattoir in 1958

Between 1956 and 1958 a serious outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease spread across the United Kingdom, peaking in 1957 when 20 counties in England and Wales, mostly in the North-West, were affected. Over 30,000 animals were slaughtered as a result. 

On 28 December 1957, just over a month after the Quarry Men appeared, the abattoir was shut down after foot-and-mouth disease was found in cattle waiting to be slaughtered. Inspectors from the Ministry of Agriculture were called in when eight suspected cases were found in carcasses. The Inspectors subsequently found 10 more cases in live cattle at the abattoir.

After being given the all-clear the abattoir re-opened on 2 January 1958 and operated until 1971. 

Liverpool's only wholesale meat and fish market continues to trade to this day selling meat purchased from local North West farmers using local abattoirs.

The Abattoir looms in the background of the former Stanley Public House which now stands forlornly on Prescot Road.

Another public house on the same street. Completed in the same year as the abattoir, the Cattle Market at 329 Prescot Road was visited by the Quarry Men prior to their engagement. The pub has since been demolished. (Photo courtesy of Ged Fagan, 3.8.70).

Stanley Abattoir pictured in 1959, two years after the Quarry Men's engagement.


Wednesday, 20 February 2013

The Quarry Men, Rosebery Street and King John

Rosebery Street,
Liverpool 8

Most historians today would argue that King John was one of England's most unsuccessful monarchs. However, for us Scousers there was at least one significant achievement during his reign. He founded the borough of Liverpool.....

Prince John was born on 24 December 1167. As the youngest of five sons of King Henry II of England and Eleanor of Aquitaine, he was not expected to inherit land of any significance from his father and he was certainly not expected to become a future monarch. However, fate intervened and following a failed rebellion by his elder brothers between 1173 and 1174 John became King Henry's favourite son. He was appointed the Lord of Ireland in 1177 and given lands in England and on the continent. William, Henry and Geoffrey, John's eldest brothers, all died young and by the time Richard I became king in 1189, John was placed as a potential heir to the throne.

John unsuccessfully attempted a rebellion against Richard's royal administrators whilst his brother was participating in the Third Crusade. This period has of course provided the backdrop to a great many dramatisations of the "Robin Hood" story with John cast as the principal villain of the piece. Despite his treachery, Richard appears to have looked upon his younger brother as little more than a yapping puppy and forgave him. When Richard was killed in 1199, John was proclaimed king of England.

John had inherited the Princedom of Ireland from his father. When news reached him that the Norman barons were encroaching on some the Irish kingdoms and causing trouble King John decided he would visit Ireland and exert his authority over them as his father had done before him. To do this John needed a suitable port on the west coast from which to embark.

In 1207, during a tour of the country he arrived at Liverpool, a fishing hamlet which he had gifted at the beginning of his reign to Henry Fitzwardin of Lancaster. With Ireland on his mind John now paid more attention to the sheltered pool leading into the wide Mersey estuary and realised that it was the perfect place to establish a port.

John asked Fitzwardin to exchange the town for other lands. It was an offer Fitzwardin could literally not refuse. John became the Lord of Liverpool soon afterwards. On 28th August 1207 he issued an invitation to settlers to come and live in his new port, in return for which he would give them the privileges enjoyed by the inhabitants of a royal borough on the sea. This meant that "Liverpul" as it was named in King John's charter, was now a part of the country where things could be bought and sold.

Rosebery Street, no.s 57-65 (1974)

"Our first appearance was in Rosebery Street. They had this party out in the street. We played from the back of a lorry. We didn't get paid. We played at blokes' parties after that; perhaps got a few bob, but mostly we just played for fun. We didn't mind about not being paid."  
John Lennon, 1967 (The Beatles by Hunter Davies)

On Saturday June 22, 1957, John Lennon’s first band, The Quarry Men, performed two sets of skiffle and rock'n'roll during street celebrations marking the 750th anniversary of King John's issuance of the Royal Charter. Street parties were held throughout the city, each competing with its neighbour in the lavishness of decoration, food and outdoor entertainment that had not been seen since the Coronation.

As Philip Norman accurately points out in his book "John Lennon - The Life" the "backdrop of grimy Victorian brickwork and celebration flags make it more like a scene from the late 19th century than the mid 20th".

Like several streets, Rosebery Street in the heart of Liverpool 8 catered for its younger residents by having a skiffle group perform. Following low key appearances at movie intermissions, parties, skiffle contests, one or two golf clubs, a youth club, church halls, a school dance, and a jazz club called The Cavern, John Lennon (guitar), Eric Griffiths (guitar), Pete Shotton (washboard), Rod Davis (banjo), Len Garry (tea-chest bass), and Colin Hanton (drums) played on the back of a stationary coal lorry  giving one performance in the afternoon, and another in the early evening.

Mrs Marjorie Roberts of 84 Rosebery Street was responsible for arranging the event and the Quarrymen were invited to play on the recommendation of her son Charles who was friends with Colin Hanton.  Charlie took the three photographs of the Quarry Men in action, unwittingly capturing the earliest known images of John Lennon in performance.


Charles Roberts outside his house displaying a flyer for the Quarry Men in his window

Charles was also responsible for stencilling the Quarrymen logo on Hanton's bass drum. Reportedly, Colin had wanted "The Quarrymen" written across the front but as there was insufficient space to write it as one word across the circumference of the drum Roberts staggered the name in two words at diagonal angles. As a result the vintage photograph of the drum-head (seen below) has been cited by some as evidence for the name being split in two words "Quarry Men". In fact there does not appear to have been an agreed way of writing the name of the group. On the poster the group name was written as one word.

The coal lorry was owned by the resident of number 76, who allowed the group to run a microphone lead through his front window.

According to Colin Hanton they were all "half cut" on pints of black velvet (a heady mix of cider and Guinness)!


L-R: Colin Hanton, Eric Griffiths, John Lennon, Len Garry, Pete Shotton, Rod Davis. But who is the bespectacled lad bottom right?

In recent years there has been some speculation as to the identity of the young man in the white sports coat on the bottom right of the  above photograph. Buddy Holly style glasses aside, he does bear more than a passing resemblance to the young Paul McCartney. Although Paul had a school mate living in the nearby Dingle and may have been visiting the area on this day, I'm sure that in the 50 odd years since the photograph was taken Paul would have mentioned it by now. According to all published sources, John and Paul would not be officially introduced until exactly two weeks later.

More intriguingly, Rosebery Street is only a twist and shout across Princes Road from High Park Street and the neighbouring Admiral Grove, home of Richard Starkey. This was definitely Starkey stomping ground so I wonder in later years whether John ever mentioned performing here and whether Ringo recalled watching him?

Rosebery Street, no.s 39-53, on 24 September 1970

The area was familiar to both sides of John's family.  His father Alfred had been born in Copperfield Street in 1912, and the Stanleys, his maternal family, had lived in various houses within Liverpool 8 including Windsor Street, Berkley Street, and Head Street where his mother Julia was born in 1914.

Julia was in the audience for the second show accompanied by her daughters - John's (half-) sisters - Julia and Jackie Dykins.  John had advised Julia to get off the bus on Princes Road but not at which bus stop. One assumes they got off at the Princes Park end as step-sister Julia recalls walking nearly the whole length of the street without finding him until "suddenly we heard the faint strains of that decidedly familiar sound".  Familar because the group often rehearsed in the Dykin's home in Garston. Following their ears they found the Quarry Men perched up on a lorry parked across the middle of the street "playing their hearts out... as the younger Rosebery residents jived around them in a swirling mass". 

John caught sight of them and hauled the two girls up onto the tailboard of the lorry while Julia leaned on a nearby lamppost, enjoying the show.

Interestingly Julia Baird (née Dykins) has recalled that on the day of the Rosebery Street performance John's group were calling themselves Johnny and the Rainbows because they all wore different coloured shirts. As the photos confirm, none of the band were wearing matching attire but the aforementioned logo on the drum head appears to tell a different story.

It was during this second Quarry Men set that Colin Hanton overhead a group of local youths from nearby Hatherley Street plotting violence against the musicians, singling out "that Lennon" in particular. Not waiting for applause the minute the group finished playing they ran to the sanctuary of Mrs Roberts' house while the mob banged on the windows demanding John come out. In the end a policeman warned them off and gave John and the Quarry Men safe escort to their bus stop. Not being able to go anywhere without assistance from the police was something John was to become tiresomely familiar with in the coming years, but on this day in 1957 it was likely his very first experience.

The Liverpool Post and Echo media company gave Rosebery Street an award for the best-decorated street outside the centre of Liverpool.

The Rosebery Street residents celebrated with a second party, but the Quarry Men were not invited back.

Rosebery Street residents on hearing that the Quarry Men are not returning (possibly).

Rosebery Street in better times viewed from the junction with Mulgrave Street looking towards Granby Street.

Granby Street at Rosebery Street, 24 September 1970

Rosebery Street awaiting demolition. As of today (2013) the neighbouring Hatherley Street is in a similar condition but still standing. For how long remains to be seen....

Rosebery Street from Princes Avenue before (above) and after demolition (below)

Rosebery Street today from Princes Avenue.


The photographs taken of Rosebery Street before demolition come from


Thanks to these guys for getting there before me

The photo of the second Rosebery Street party comes from Paul Frost's Facebook page - I Love Liverpool The City.

Video of Liverpool's 1957 celebrations can be seen here:


John Lennon, My Brother (Julia Baird with Geoffrey Giuliano, 1988) Grafton. ISBN 978-0-246-13315-1.

Imagine This – Growing up with my brother John Lennon (Julia Baird, 2007). Hodder and Stoughton. ISBN 978-0-340-83924-9.

A very Big thanks to Charles Roberts, without whom.... 

Charlie's photos are available to buy on ebay and from