Alexandra
Hall,
College
Road
Crosby,
Liverpool
23
The
Beatles made one appearance here on 19 January 1961, an engagement promoted by
Crosby based Brian Kelly who, under the banner of BeeKay Promotions also put on
"jive dances" at the Aintree Institute, Lathom Hall and Litherland
Town Hall, all venues which would become familiar to the Beatles.
"The
Silver Beats"
Under
the name the Silver Beatles (actually The Silver Beats as they were called
apparently for this one night only) the group blagged their way through to an
audition for Kelly at Lathom Hall, playing a few songs during the interval on
Saturday 14 May 1960 on a bill which included established Liverpool bands
Kingsize Taylor and the Dominoes, Cliff
Roberts and the Rockers and the Deltones.
There
appears to be conflicting reports on how they fared, Kelly himself is said to
have ordered them off stage after only their second song whereas the Bootle
Times newspaper called their brief performance "sensational".
In his
Beatles Biography "Tune In", Mark Lewisohn suggests that the Silver
Beats got the audition in the interval because Cliff Roberts and the Rockers
(right) couldn't make it.
This may be the case. The similarly named Cliff Roberts, drummer with Kingsize Tayor remembers that on that first night of 14
May the Silver Beats’ were a scruffy bunch who'd turned up without a drum kit
and asked if they could borrow Cliff’s.
Roberts
had a brand new Premier Olympic kit that he hadn’t even used on stage himself,
so he naturally refused. However, he agreed to play with the Silver Beats and
they performed six numbers together: “four
rock ‘n’ roll standards that all of the groups played, and two originals that
they had to teach me.”
Note
that four days earlier, Cliff Roberts and the Rockers and the Beatles had taken part in an audition for the
London promoter Larry Parnes who had come to Liverpool to find a backing band
for one of his artists, Billy Fury. The audition was held at the Wyvern Social
Club, later known as the Blue Angel and the Beatles had similar problems here -
their drummer Tommy Moore was late turning up on that day too.
As a
result of their brief performance, and contrary to his own opinion that they
were terrible, Kelly booked them for the following week, on Saturday 21 May. He
advertised the event, which was the
first time the group had officially appeared in an advertisement. Despite the
fact that they’d only auditioned, the advertisement billed them as “Silver Beats,
Dominoes, Deltones", in other words headlining over Kingsize Taylor!
In
spite of the top billing they didn’t turn up for the gig. Instead they left on
a tour of Scotland backing another Larry Parnes signing, Johnny Gentle and
without informing Kelly who, as a
result, didn’t book them again for several months until Bob Wooler talked him
into it.
Cliff
Roberts recalls that the group then disappeared and he didn’t see them until
eight months later when they appeared on the bill at the Alexandra Hall, Crosby
on Thursday 19 January 1961, where, says Roberts, “They wore black leather, had
brand new instruments and played brilliantly.”
The
Beatles in January (left, at the Cavern) and February 1961 (below, at the
Casbah club.)
Great
Crosby, which includes Waterloo, lies on the northern shore at the mouth of the
River Mersey, with a level sandy beach extending over three miles (5 km) from
north-west to southeast. The beach itself is a must-see as this is the current
setting for Another Place by the artist Anthony Gormley, The piece consists of 100 cast-iron life size
figures spread out along three km of the beach and almost one km out to sea.
Alexandra
Hall, built on the junction of Mersey Road, College Road and Coronation Road
was originally the Town Hall for the Crosby Urban District Council. It opened
in 1888 and was originally called the Alexandra Assembly Hall though the locals
knew it as the Rodways Room.
When
the Great Crosby and Waterloo with Seaforth Urban Districts were merged into
the Borough of Crosby, the council offices were transferred to Waterloo Town
Hall. The frontage of the red brick Alexandra Hall had an ironwork and glass
canopy, which was removed in the late 1950s because of rust erosion. The Crosby
Flower Show and local drama groups used the Main Hall upstairs each year.
In the
1970s the building was converted into a Magistrates Court, and survived to the
Millennium.
Another
venue I went to visit too late. It was demolished in 2004 to make way for
luxury apartments, something Crosby does not appear to have a shortage of. I couldn't help noticing that it does have a
shortage of Alexandra Halls.
The
site of Alexandra Hall today. At least the design of the new Alexandra Court
has some sympathy with the building it replaced.
St
Luke's Hall
96
Liverpool Road,
Crosby,
Liverpool
23
In the late 1950s and early 60s this small suburban hall was better known as the "Jive Hive", a generic term which was applied to certain venues that presented live music.
The
Quarrymen made a single appearance here in November 1957. Most of the other Liverpool
bands also performed at this popular venue, although there is no record of the
Beatles appearing.
Kingsize
Taylor and the Dominoes appeared regularly at St. Luke's and on many occasions
Ted’s girlfriend, Priscilla White, would get up on stage and sing with the
band.
Perhaps
the group most identified with St. Luke's is Rory Storm and the Hurricanes, one
of the key groups on the Liverpool scene between 1959 and 1962. Perhaps
uniquely amongst the Liverpool groups, their guitar player John Byrne (aka
Johnny Guitar) kept diaries which, since his passing have been transcribed for
several websites. As a result we have a record of all of their engagements for
the years between 1959 and 1963 including the period when Ringo Starr was their
drummer (May 1959 – August 1962), and as the dates below show, they performed
so often at the “Jive Hive” it could be argued that they had a residency there.
Rory
Storm and the Hurricanes at St. Luke's, Crosby
1959-1961 (my notes in brackets).
1959
August:
12th, 26th (without bassist Lou Walters)
September:
5th, 19th, 28th, 30th
October:
5th, 10th (Ringo Starr was elsewhere this evening, replaced by someone called
Barry), 12th, 14th, 21st, 24th
November:
4th, 11th, 18th, 21st, 25th, 28th
December:
2nd, 5th, 9th, 12th, 16th, 19th, 24th, 26th, 30th
1960
January:
6th, 9th, 16th, 27th, 30th
February:
3rd, 6th, 10th, 13th, 17th, 24th, 27th
March:
2nd (Don Singleton stands in for Ringo who had flu), 5th (Two half-hours were
taped by radio engineers at Jive Hive), 16th, 17th, 19th, 23rd, 26th
April:
2nd, 6th, 9th, 16th, 20th, 23rd, 27th
May:
4th, 7th, 11th, 14th, 17th, 21st, 25th, 28th
June:
1st (they then go to Butlins, Pwllheli, for the summer season)
September:
18th, 28th
(From
October 1st until December 31st: Kaiserkellar, Hamburg)
1961
January:
27th
February:
1st, 4th, 15th
March:
4th, 15th, 18th, 25th
April:
12th (Johnny Gus from the Big Three stands in for Johnny Guitar this night)
October:
11th
Remarkably,
50 years after it was recorded a tape of one of their performances at the Jive
Hive was unearthed and released on CD in 2012.
We can
see from Johnny Guitar’s diary entry that the tape was made on 5th March 1960.
1.
Introduction
2.
Brand New Cadillac
3.
(You're So Square) Baby I Don't Care
4. Make
Me Know You're Mine
5. Bye
Bye Love
6. Jet
Black
7. Down
The Line
8. C'mon
Everybody
9.
Don't Bug Me Baby
10. Rip
It Up
11.
Somethin' Else
12.
Train To Nowhere
13.
Since You Broke My Heart
14.
Honey Don't
15. All
American Boy
16.
Willie and the Hand Jive
17.
Closing Announcement
The
tape was discovered by Rory’s sister, Iris Caldwell in her cellar. Commenting
on her late brother Iris said "Rory was a performer. He wasn't, like the
Beatles, a brilliant songwriter. They called him The Golden Boy and Mr
Showbusiness”.
Unfortunately, despite Ringo’s image appearing prominently on the CD
cover he is not on the recording. Iris
admitted there was "some doubt" as to whether it was Ringo on drums.
Johnny Guitar's diary entry for 2nd March 1960 records “Don played as Richy had flu”. He does not seem to have recovered in time to appear on the recording and one listen to the CD is enough for most people to conclude that it’s not him on the tape. Ringo has a recognisable sound and his timekeeping was exceptional. “Don” unfortunately, is all over the place on some of the songs.
Johnny Guitar's diary entry for 2nd March 1960 records “Don played as Richy had flu”. He does not seem to have recovered in time to appear on the recording and one listen to the CD is enough for most people to conclude that it’s not him on the tape. Ringo has a recognisable sound and his timekeeping was exceptional. “Don” unfortunately, is all over the place on some of the songs.
It’s an interesting recording but having given it a listen I find it
hard to believe that so many people once thought that they were Liverpool’s top
group. Perhaps without the visuals the excitement of their performance just
doesn’t translate. Or perhaps the tapes were rolling on a bad night.
Blame
“Don”.
As for
St. Luke's, today it is known as the Crosby Comrades Club. The inside bears
little resemblance to the original dance hall, although it is still used on
occasions as a dance venue when some of the Mersey-beat era groups reunite for
nostalgia evenings.
Source:
Mark
Lewisohn - "The Beatles Live"
Ray
O'Brien "There Are Places I'll Remember - The Beatles early venues"
http://thebritishsound.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/rory-storm-and-hurricanes-family-tree.html
* Mark Lewisohn claims that it was to Kingsize Taylor that the Silver Beats turned for help, asking to borrow the Dominoes drummer Dave Lovelady when they arrived without one.
Photo Credits:
Alexandra
Hall (Colour): Harvey Stevens
Paul and George in the Casbah: Mike McCartney
Rory
Storm and the Hurricanes at the Jive Hive: Dick Matthews?
Cliff
Roberts and the Rockers: Cheniston Rowland
This is what really happened (Beatles Bible): Cliff Roberts band was double booked at Lathom Hall and at the Casanova Club. The Beatles turned up at the Casanova, but couldn't go on. Roberts told the boys that he'd been double-booked and that they should go over to the Lathom Hall and tell Brian Kelly he was ill. Therefore it was Cliff Roberts of Kingsize Taylor who deputized for Tommy Moore.
ReplyDeleteTHAT makes sense! Thanks.
ReplyDeleteThere were two people called Cliff Roberts on the scene. The frontman of The Rockers and the drummer with The Dominoes and The Zodiacs.
ReplyDeleteThere is no way Don Alcyd is the drummer on the Rory Storm recordings. He was a tight drummer and the fills heard on the CD were not in his drumming vocabulary. A bandmate of Don's from Faron And The Tempest Tornadoes also refuses to believe it is Don on the same grounds.
ReplyDelete"Johnny Guitar's diary entry for 2nd March 1960 records “Don played as Richy had flu”."
People overlook the fact the diary doesn't say when Ringo returned.
"Ringo has a recognisable sound and his timekeeping was exceptional."
This is only applicable to The Beatles recordings because there are no earlier known "confirmed" recordings of him to compare prior to The Beatles Cavern footage for Granada TV.
Furthermore it suggests his drumming always sounded the way it does which is ridiculous.
He would have had to practise like anyone else to improve his skill and develope his style. Ironically alot of the drum fills on the Rory Storm CD are very similar to the fills heard in the early Beatles recordings.
I'm not saying it is Ringo but I'm not ruling it out either